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These are the replies from my friends. NOT THE OPINION OF TAB

popa_bar_abba ~ thanx!! On a more serious note, I am actually going to school as I’m not married and don’t see a point in not having the skills in case I c”v don’t get married soon or don’t have children right away. I don’t believe in being lazy and stupid!

Ezrat Hashem, Aries, devrachel, bein_hasdorim ~ *like!!! Do any of you, by any chance, have a son in shidduchim? 🙂

Sam~ Yes, everyone is different but why has the ideal changed? Shouldn’t women aspire to stay home? Isn’t that the Torah way?

Peacemaker ~ Exactly!

Queen Bee~ Can the Torah make rules? I’m talking about what the Torah wants from us (ie, what we should aspire to)

lesschumras~ Very true. Question is, which way does the Torah want? (parnasah is a different discussion, but what is the ideal?)

Taking A Break~ Thanks for listening to me rant and rave! You’re the best!

Middle Path~ But what should the ideal be. What is the Torah way?

Happiest~ I agree. Some mothers enjoy the time. You have the chance to teach kids sooo much when they are around you. It can be trying. But who cares if your house is messier? Relax and enjoy before they’re in yeshiva/high school and running to do their own things…

am yisrael chai~ Agree!!! Round robins are fun for children and parents. I know 2 ladies that cooked for yontif together. Why not make it fun for their little children, who had each other to play with, and the moms to schmooze?

mommamia~ And you’re telling me it takes less energy to run a house and work????

yungerman~ “some women don’t have the patience to stay at home” if they have a shortcoming aren’t they embarrassed? I wouldn’t want the world to know that I can’t live up to what the Torah wants from me! And yes, I think the schools took it a bit far. As for your answer to happiest, most children are very happy just to have their mothers attention. Yes, children will fight. Its trying. But relax. Bake cookies. Make homemade pizza dough and have each child make their own pizza. Shopping/errands can be a little harder. But with a little planning and forethought vacation can be one of the most special times for a child.

devrachel~ As your kids get older they will really appreciate what an amazing and special mother they have. I’ve never seen it wasted. And as a side point, your listening to shiurim while your kids are around, I believe, is infusing them with such a kavod and ahava for Torah, that I don’t think they can possibly get from anywhere else.

I think a lot of it comes down to patience. Now-a-days people have less patience than in early times. But isn’t that embarrassing? Instead of saying “Well, its not for everyone,” why don’t people say “Its something I need to work on. Unfortunately I’m not able to stay home with my kids”???? Just like I wouldn’t say to a co-worker “I have an anger problem,” I wouldn’t say to co-worker “I can’t stay home with my kids. I need intellectual stimulation” Whats the difference?

To quote aries “Sorry if I offended anyone, I have a very strong opinion on this.”