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Sam2: Conservative did all those things, but they only developed a doctrine after they broke with Orthodoxy. They started off as orthodox rabbis who looked for kulos to grow their congregations. Then they started using illegitimate kulos to the point that they had to define a movement to justify them. From there, it was a short jump to the “committee on Jewish law and standards” that serves as the Conservative sanhedrin today.
And yes, apparently we are talking about two different kinds of egalitarian minyanim. I was talking about the conservative kind that bills themselves as “fully egalitarian services led by men and women.” You seem to be talking about similar groups who just don’t have the guts to go all the way.
Reb Ber: So Creedmoorer chassidim won’t go to women’s minyanim because there’s a chshash heter?