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hello99 –

Listen, either way we have to say a chiddush. I admit it’s a chiddush to say that nothing other than a kli rishon can cause the metzius of bishul, but saying that there is such a thing as a “din bishul” is a tremendous chiddush in my opinion, and if we have to choose, a bigger dochek. Because why in the world would there be such a thing as a “din bishul”? Why wouldn’t we look at the metzius? Who made up this “din bishul” and what pasuk was it learned from, that we can take these mi’doraisa halachos and just say they don’t apply based on it? I’d rather be madcheh all of your kashyos than say that, and come out lemayseh that the metzius which is called bishul does not occur in anything other than a kli rishon, unless you have a raya to your chiddush that isn’t just an ela mai.