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a) What makes you call me an MO Jew, and why would that make me any less capable of pointing out your inconsistencies?
b) Excuse me, but where did President Joel say that MO is different than “Orthodox”?
c) Nobody – again – NOBODY considers Richard Joel a Rosh Yeshiva, or the voice of the Yeshiva.
d) You’re right, YU is not like other Yeshivas. That is not the issue at hand.
Nisht Ahe Nisht Aher –
What toeva movement are you talking about? The fact is there is no “movement” in YU.
Nono, but what you are trying to say is probably right; we should ignore all problems in society instead of actually trying to deal with them within the contexts of Torah. Better everyone work out their own problems by themselves in quiet misery and tough luck if they fail.
Assumedly, you consider yourself someone who went to a “Real Yeshiva” and is on the right derech. So why would there ever be an excuse to not act civilly? Or to do something against one’s morals because one is being “forced?”
The rest of us are engaging in civil discussion, merely point out some of the objective differences and unique qualities of the institution. Again, chill out bro. One thing they apparently left out of the elite program you’re in/went to is how to engage in a civil, intellectually honest discussion based on fact.