Reply To: But how far is too far to excuse based on intentions alone?

i know im usually a bit less emotional when i post, never this angry, but this stuff just annoys me like nothing else. firstly because its a tremendous chillul hashem. i realize that our priority as frum jews is not to be an ohr lagoyim but its there somewhere in our long list of what to be…and this isnt helping it.

secondly things were finally starting to calm down somewhat between all the various factions after the garbage can burnings and all that nonsense and now this…its just plain disgraceful.

thirdly, the image one gets when one thinks of a charedi is a kind faced person, who calmly conducts his life always cognizant of hashem and in accordance with the torah to the letter. or rather thats the image i would think of if you said the word charedi 3 years ago. now…? im not so sure. now when you say charedi to me i conjure up two images. one of what i said above, and the other of some red faced, spitting, hysterical man yelling and throwing stones while holding his hat to make sure it doesnt fall off.

fourthly (is that correct? i dont care) israel is in a bit of a precarious position right now with the rest of the world in regards to palestine, and we need all the friends we can get. so when we do something to cause the secretary of state of the united states of america to liken us to iran…thats a serious problem. it doesnt matter whether or not the comparison is accurate, it just matters that we caused it to be said by our actions because that loses us support we need to make sure that palestine doesnt become a state, and isnt approved as a member of the UN.

so when those clowns down there in meah shearim and bet shemesh do stupid things like hold civil disobedience protests about gender segregated buses, protest in concentration camp gear because they seemingly (HEY! GUYS! I SAID SEEMINGLY!!!) think women inferior and believe they are being persecuted for their belief, and when SOMEONE spits in bet shemesh, and that one person gets on TV and the only thing he apologizes for is for doing an interview on TV and the only peopel to whom he apologizes ARE THE MEMBERS OF HIS OWN COMMUNITY, that sends a terrible message and makes our allies think twice about supporting us.

also another thing, i have pictures of the guy who walks through meah shearim on friday with that shofar thingy blowing it when its time for shabbos…(i think its meah shearim) and there are women in some of those pictures who are wearing sleeveless shirts and tight jeans…how come they are never attacked? i mean it seems reasonable…they shouldnt venture into such neighbourhoods if they know whats good for them (not that that sounds at all like gang warfare…because its inconceivable that good honest charedim would ever form gangs…) but how come its always dati leumi and THEIR KIDS who get picked on by these nutters? i wanna see a bloody beaten chiloni woman for a change!