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moi aussi -“Yeshivos and seminaries brainwashed their youth that “staying in learning” is the ultimate sacrifice for Torah. At whose expense?”

Not yours. I’m sure you don’t support Kollel!

“Boys were instructed to look for rich fathers in law. Women were instructed to take upon themselves the yoke of parnassa.”

“The results speak for themselves:

-Fathers are collapsing and dying of heart attacks from the financial strain of supporting Kollel children.”

Do you have any proof for Your statistics? Stop making things up just to put down Kollel. We in the medical field know that Heart disease is caused by a few risk factors.

“-Women have become martyrs working like horses at full-time jobs, raising kids and running homes.”

They actually agree to do this. It wasn’t a shotgun wedding. I guess some want a big Chelek in Olam Haba. Maybe you can’t understand this.

“-Bnei Brak has the highest percentage of children living below the poverty line.”

Oh and it’s only because of Kollel. Again how about some proof?

“-The Kollelniks are frustrated and unfulfilled for having been robbed of their role as provider of the family. Consequently their Torah learning is not so serious (to put it mildly).”

Most I know are not like this. Hey – but say anything you want as long as Kollel guys look bad.

“It’s a failed system, and people are waking up to its realities.”

That’s your opinion. But a good portion of the Frum world doesn’t think it’s a failed system. And I don’t learn in Kollel and almost never did!