Chacham:it is in shiurim lezecher abba mori 1:pg 228. It means once we don’t know what the chilozon is the only way to say this thing is the chilozon is with a mesorah which was lost. Even with raiyos one needs a mesora. I am sure you read the kovetz tshuvos and tshuvos vhanhagos ,to me they a convincing arguments.
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