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Even those who are up, aren’t always learning. Some take long coffee breaks or pick as a chavrusa b’davka the guy who they know they’ll be able to shmooze all day with. And I do personally feel that attendance is not the most important thing all of the time as long as the guy is learning wherever he is and he is not slacking off. That’s why I would rather see tests then attendance being strictly taken. Let me reiterate, I’m not talking about difficult tests. And for all I care, the test-takers don’t need to be made aware of their scores, because that’s not really what’s important, and I don’t know that this kind of competition is healthy in a yeshiva. What’s important is that they are in yeshiva or kollel because of an ideal, to achieve something, and not just because it is easier than going to work or learning a profession.

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Just an aside, even without changing the system, there are tests that you can take in BMG, especially on halacha subjects, and if a prospective parent-n-law is so concerned, couldn’t a deal be arranged in which the prospective son-in-law agrees to take the tests and accomplish x amount in x amount of time with reasonable flexibility?

But again, I do agree very much in principle with your concept.