Yes, Judaism (even MO) may appear backwards to the rest of the world. However, as was stated before, the difference between, say, MO and Satmar is that we don’t try to force things on people. The stories of women harassed for sitting in the front of a bus were documented. If someone wants to live life following Satmar standards, fine, go ahead. It doesn’t bother me. But don’t expect my wife to dress to your standards, with 3 different layers buttoned up to her chin, bullet-proof tights with seams every inch, with a shaved head and a shpitzel, while walking down a public street. You have no right to make others dress that way on a public street.
Even though you refuse to answer people who would show you why you are wrong, I refuse to stop posting just because you won’t respond.
You are confusing issues.
This thread is not about forcing people from outside the community to dress to their standards while visiting, or to comply with their bus standards.
This thread is about whether the internal standards they have are somehow illegitimate. That was the point you were making before; that you think the tznius standards they have do not respect women.
You can certainly change the topic and discuss the issue of forcing people outside the community to comply, but you should not conflate the issues. So, as for your issue:
1. Harassing women in a normal mixed neighborhood is unacceptable, and I have heard nobody normal defend it. As is harassing women on a regular bus.
2. Harassing women who deliberately board a mehadrin bus in order to be a rosa parks hero and make a feminist statement, is a mitzva, and those women should be spit on. If you want to make a feminist statement, go get an abortion. (Greatest line ever, thank you, thank you.) (And don’t argue about the women’s motives, this is the case I made up.)
3. Harassing women who accidentally board a mehadrin bus, or do so out of inconvenience, and there are not seats in back, or they are too hard to get to, is unacceptable. They should not be harassed, and anyone who harasses them is a rasha, and should be spit on.
4. Harassing women who visit their neighborhoods and don’t dress to their standards, seems a bit odd to me. I think someone (a woman) should gently go over to them and inform them of the standards (if the neighborhood really is that homogeneous, like maybe New Square or kiryas yoel). (I don’t care if you have a right to go. I don’t believe in rights–that is americanishe stupidity. And if we are talking about rights, they have a right to harass you–first amendment buddy.)
You know, there have been plenty of times I have admitted being wrong on this website, after making a point. You should think about it sometime. Being open minded and everything–it’s a very americanishe value.