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mytake
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“I am just saying that this women is not lying and that the fact that she found this lifestyle not good does not mean it is not a GREAT lifestyle for some.”

Having said that, I’d like to reply to each of your points.

“I went to a really Yeshivish (although not Chasidishe)High-School. I was told it dosn’t “Pas” for a Ben Torah to eat out in a restaurant and that we should not do so. I do not find it hard to believe that a strict Satmar Family would not let it’s women eat out.”

It’s quite a stretch going from “it doesn’t pas for a ben-Torah” to “women are not allowed”. One is clearly a stringent practice and the other sounds kind of oppressive. She should have made this distinction when mentioning it. And yes, strict Satmar families do not eat out because it doesn’t pas. But it’s NOT a general chassidishe rule. And the book’s subtitle is “The Scandalous Rejection of My HASIDIC Roots.”

“Again in my experience in the Yeshivishe community the more Yeshivishe people are less makpid on driving laws, underage drinking etc. then more modern or not frum people. So I do not find it hard to believe her here either.”

I cannot think of a way to back up my claim that you are making an unfair and untrue accusation. It’s just your experience vs. mine. Where I come from, safety is given priority.

“I remember being told by my High- school teachers that “Just because a Goy is wearing a uniform does not make him any less of a lowlife then a bum on a street corner and given the chance they would do what the Nazis did”

I was also taught quite a bit of nonsense in school. But I understand that this doesn’t reflect the philosophy or practices of chassidim. You’ll find idoiots talking like idiots anywhere.

“My understanding from speaking to some friends who are familiar with Satmar is that Beis Ruchel Dsatmar forbids it’s high-school girls from being on the street after certain hours(with some exceptions when attending a friends wedding etc.).”

I KNOW people in Williamsburg. I have relatives there. They come and go from their homes whenever they want to.

“Allot of the Chasidieshe men I meet speak english on about a 4th grade level so this is not a leap.”

You’re right about the men. She said girls, though.

My point is she exaggerated and lied and she KNOWS it.