Shmoel and Chacham, I cannot (and DO not) argue with Pirkei Avos. But who is being quoted there, and is his opinion considered THE one and only final opinion? Not everything we learn in Mishnah and Gemarah is meant as unquestioned Halacha l’maiseh for everyone, it is there to teach us the PROCESS by which the final p’sak is reached. Did ALL the Tanaim agree with that statement that it means the man’s wife? If so, then why do men and women who are married to each other have conversations? Would it not be just as assur as it is to eat chazir? Clearly this is not as glatt as you make it out to be. I am not trying to bait you here. I find that there is a difference of consensus, and I am trying to understand why. Clearly it does not benefit a married couple for the husband to withdraw from conversing with his wife in a normal manner. Certainly in this day and age, that could be a source of a lack of Sholom Bayis.
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