Platonic thats the word thanx..
“or even in SHul on Shabbos”
yes very well stated the socializing in shuls these days is also a huge problem and must be dealt with. good point oomis.
Of course your rite hirhurim can happen at anytime but by putting urself or your kids in a situation where he or she is surrounded with taiva, ur asking for hirhurim to happen and looking at women is also an aveira, as well as hearing (kol isha) and talking to them.
and talking to you in 30 yrs is irrelevent – it’s now when im younger, without pas b’sali, that i have to put up with these issues.
“and presume they are all about to commit arayos”
What your looking at as the problem is ‘committing’ arayos, but the torah says “Lo Sikrivu” – the coming close itself (i.e. thinkin, seeing, hearing, talking to, talking about) is the aveira itself. It doesnt say Lo Sikrivu by cheesebergers so u can smell it if you’d like but arayos is a completely different story, coming close to the aveira is deemed by the torah as an aveira itself.
Lastly, “Maybe we should not let people buy food in the supermarket, either”
this may not be what you were talking about but its true. Do you ever see your rebbi or rosh yeshiva (hopefully you do have one) in a mall, shopping center, or other place prone to pritzus? I dont. Not going out to certain places, even tho everyone else does, is not crazy (for men). your yetzer hara never dies it doesnt matter how old you are. You cannot be in a place where ther could be pritzus if you dont have to be. send ur wife or something…ya living a torah life requires some mesiras nefesh