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Golfer:
Maybe ask said organizer how he felt when i contacted him months before and encouraged him, told him to ingore the naysayers and offered (and did) help him in anyway possible.
He actually thanked me profusely and told me he got chills when i elucidated what i thought their message was.
Anyone who knows me will easily attest that this is a issue close to my heart and one that i have invested much time and energy on and Rav Wacsman is someone whom i am very very close to and was so positive he would deliver a no doubt about it take home message to galvanize Rov Minyan and Binyan of Klal Yisroel.
It is EXACTLY and PRECISELY for this reason that i was devastated by what DID take place instead of what COULD’VE and SHOULD’VE taken place.
I have and continue to be in touch with said organzier (via email). When he claimed that it wasn’t as big a failure as i made it out to be because a few thousand ppl got filteres, i explained to him that a few thouand out of half a million is a epic failure.
that being said the term “laughed in his face” was NOT appropriate (it also wasn’t true because we communicated via email, not phone).
So while i have the utmost respect for the people who started the movement (and I feel terrible that their mission was hijacked) and I will (and have) done anything i can to facilitate and encourage the realization of widespread and sociall expectations of having internet protected devices, at the same time i will not simply kow tow to power plays.
Cholent:
Please don’t confuse people who were dissatifed with the asifa, (of which there are many) with people who encourage unfiltered internet and permit doing anything and everything online of which we reasonably assume there are few (with regards to the last clause really mean none).
If only that would’ve been the clear take home message from the asifa it would’ve been a gold mine, instead we received confusing conflicting messages.
(side point: i can’t figure out how you are on this forum if you accepted the psak of the event but i’m sure you and avhaben have the heter from Rav Wosner.)
But that’s behind us.
let’s move forward and tackle this problem in the manner that it seems the vast majority of people are willing able and can do.
Establish a concept of insisting on proper protection for any and all devices we use.
Definition of proper protection?
That of course depends on the individual their community their environment. Etc.
and thus the need for proper guidance on the local level.
Is anything i’m suggesting so radical and out of line?