yichusdik -“Chulent, learn some history. The 6th Zionist congress in 1903 voted in favour of a commission to investigate the Uganda idea, and Herzl himself clearly stated at that congress that even were it to come to fruition, it was meant as a temporary measure to save lives from vicious Russian antisemitism. It was never a first inclination. ( you may have heard of the Kishinev pogrom in 1903 and the Kiev pogrom in 1905, but, then again, you may not care, because one can’t let facts get in the way of one’s world view, right?) and according to Herzl a Jewish state in Israel was the ultimate goal. The proposal almost split the movement entirely, and it was abandoned for good at the next Zionist congress less than 2 years later. the Jewish Agency and Emory university, among many others, have the primary source documents to back this up. I am sure that you have adequate sources for your slander.
The willingness of the Zionists to consider Uganda demonstrates nothing about their perception of Torah and Judaism. It speaks clearly, though, about their desire to save Jewish lives.”
Actually Chulent is right, except that he states -“first consideration”.
You post right out of a Zionist Propaganda Book. It’s very hard to know the history of what hapenned because most of the historians are Zionists. It is probably true that Teddy sought it as a temporary means, but your line about abadonment by ALL two years later is false. And this part of Chulent’s post is accurate – “demonstrates the zionists complete lack of allegiance to, and despisal of, Torah and Judaism.”
Some Zionists created an org. to create a State anywhere, so this proves Chulent’s statement. The following is from the Jewish virtual library:
While Herzl made it clear that this program would not affect the ultimate aim of Zionism, a Jewish entity in the Land of Israel, the proposal aroused a storm at the Congress and nearly led to a split in the Zionist movement.
The Uganda Program was finally rejected by the Zionist movement at the Seventh Zionist Congress in 1905, but Nahum Syrkin and Israel Zangwill called an alternative conference to continue the plan of the Uganda scheme.
After the rejection of the Uganda scheme on the grounds of impracticability by the British, Zangwill turned his attention to settlement in Canada and Australia. But opposition from local residents led him to abandon the scheme. Expeditions were sent to Mesopotamia (Iraq), Cyrenaica (Libya) and Angola but little came of these expeditions.
A project that had some concrete success was the Galveston scheme which contemplated the settlement of Jews in the American Southwest, in particular in Texas.
The project received the assistance of Jacob Schiff, the American Jewish banker, and some 9,300 Jews arrived in that area between 1907-1914, through the Emigration Bureau of the Territorialist organization.