Ibmzr, you call working, in whatever occupation, “doing something crazy for 40+ hours a week” and an insurmountable obstacle to “proper ????? ???.” Well, you’ve narrowed the notion of “proper ????? ???” so severely as to dismiss our role in ma’aseh bereishit and empty Torah of nearly all applied value. I strongly object. Wherever we go, we do ????? ???. It’s not that we “can” do it or “might” do it, but that we “do” do it, for better or worse. Hinuch, too, is done not only in the classroom but everywhere. Again, it’s not something that *can* be done; it gets done, to whatever extent one is up for it. And guess what else: interacting with goyim is good. You can’t know yourself without having some idea about what isn’t yourself. The workplace, where yishuvo shel ‘olam takes place, is the right setting for all of these.
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