hello99 -“Health: Your distinction is irrelevant. The Cheftza of the coil is unchanged, regardless of whether they are always or only sometimes covered. The coil remains the same coil.”
So what? Since when is a coil -Aish? Cause you say so? A coil in a housing like a bulb which gives off light -could be a Sofek -perhaps it’s similar to a fire. A fire gives off light. The crock pot doesn’t give off light -it’s not made this way. Because it got cooked -so what? The cooking in a crock pot is not the same as cooking on a fire. The fire is much hotter and therefore the food gets done much quicker!
“As others have pointed out, your understanding of Dumia l’Meleches HaMishkan is critically flawed. As the Eglei Tal and Shvisas HaShabbos explain, when the outcome is identical to the Ma’aseh haMishkan and only the procedure is changed, it becomes a Toldah. Still d’Oraisa, just not the Av Melacha. So, if you wish to claim that a crockpot is only a Toldah of Bishul, as Tzli and Tigun are, and not the Av, there would be what to discuss, however there is no practical Nafka Mina. However, it is rediculous to claim it is only d’Rabbanan”
Your trying to prove that I’m wrong from these two Shittos – Since you didn’t post a copy here of what they wrote -either you are misconstruing what they say or we don’t Pasken like them.
There is a Din that you are allowed to cook in the sun, but cooking in sand heated by the sun is Ossur. Acc. to you this should be Ossur M’doraysa because the outcome is the same -so it’s a Toldah. But I’m sorry to inform you -the Achronim say this is only Ossur M’drabonon. You must be right and the Achronim must be wrong because the outcome of the cooking is the same -so it’s a Toldah/D’oraysa!