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DY – “It might only be muktzah because of the issur of amira l’akum.”

I hold like the Shittos -Ameira L’acum B’mokom Tzorech Godol even by a D’oraysa is Mutter!

“How do you get around bishul aku”m? I thought you had conceded that.”

No, I didn’t. What I concided on was that electricity is an Issur D’oraysa. I’ll refresh your memory:

From page #4 -“DaasYochid -“Health,

The Aruch Hashulchan is only matir if it’s an employee, and one of the factors is that a Jew will likely aid in the cooking, which certainly can’t be said in this case.”

My reply:

“The Rishon who this comes from is not Mechalek. Also, the Jew helped by making the Chulent and putting it in the crockpot.

And there is a Kal V’chomer -If an employee is Mutter because you won’t get close to him because he is getting paid, for sure some stranger off the street whom you won’t probably ever see again -you won’t get close to.” (The last reason of course is only talking about cooking in the Jew’s house.)

“I wasn’t bringing a proof from that specific din; I was demonstrating that there is chiluk between tzrochim.”

Ok, so what? What does this have to do my case of the crockpot?

“Because how a situation came about has no bearing on how big the tzorech is; many cases of tzorech gadol are caused by a peshiah, and it has no bearing on possible heter.

The case of the refrigerator, where one neglected to remove the bulb before Shabbos, is clearly a peshiah, yet is considered a tzorech gadol.”

Again, if you want to ask on those Shittos from 253 -go ahead.

But my case -I didn’t Matir in a case of Peshiah. So there is no problem with my case to 253. S’A 253 is a case of Peshiah -they knew from the git go that the fire might go out and therefore they arranged with Goyim to move it -if it does. My case is a total Oiness, no Peshiah!