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Choppy: You’re ignoring a very important semantics difference. You are lumping both the community that Syag described and the one that Feif described as “MO” and therefore saying that “MO” has problems. But you can clearly see the difference, can’t you? Just because a community that is more properly described as Conservadox calls themselves “MO” shouldn’t mean that the “Modern Orthodox” communities who remember the Orthodox part of their name should be lumped with them as problematic. That would be like saying BMG has a lot of Zionists because there are some Zionists in Ner Yisrael. They’re both “Chareidi/Yeshivish”, right? So that’s a fair claim? You can see that’s ridiculous, can’t you?