Reply To: Would you choose army or kollel?

Use your brain- Unfortunately, the people who you are referring to, I assume the chilonim, don’t have respect for Torah, and some possibly are disgusted by . It’s a sad state, but it seems that’s the reality. The reason they choose the army, and not the “easy way out” of Kollel as I put it, is because they have too much self respect to do something that they don’t value just to get out of the army.

I was asking more theoretically like if the EY needs more soldiers than the Chiloni and Dati communities can provide, and Charedim were needed to serve but they have an “out” by choosing to learn, who would choose army over kollel if kollel is more valuable and less risky? Or, iyH when EY is run by a frum government, and all (if not most) of its citizens are shomrei Torah uMitzvos, and there needs to be an army but anyone can get out of the army by choosing to learn, who would choose to serve? What incentive exists to fight?

I am not looking for answers like “if the country is frum, then we won’t need an army” or “then Mashiach will come and there will be no more wars” because I’m not sure if that’s true. I don’t know what the times of Mashiach will be like, and I’m not convinced that Mashiach will automatically come if there is a frum government. I am also not convinced that if EY is a frum state that we wouldn’t need an army as many societies in Tanach (like the Dor HaMidbar and the generation of Dovid HaMelech) who were presumably halachic and still needed an army.