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Breslever -“So women should just not daven at the wall or kivrei tzaddikim? Fantastic!”
That’s right – you don’t make a State against the Torah, just so women can go Daven.
“Of course I have. How come you have never heard of ain od milvado? Just because you don’t understand how free will can exist in harmony with everything coming from Hashem, doesn’t mean that it isn’t the case.”
Hashem allows it, but it doesn’t mean he agrees to it!
“That should have no impediment on you living in Eretz Yisrael.”
I posted many times -you don’t have to because it’s a Mokom Sakana.
“So it seems the only one stuck to the past is you. The Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rav Ovadia Yosef, all the big tzaddikim from litvish, Belzer/Gerrer Rebbeim etc all knew that there is a clear and overriding issue of pikuach nefesh that dictates how we must relate to the medinah.”
Therefore what? So I can hold like the Gedolim that say we should even dismantle it now!
“Your nostalgic dreams of Ottoman Turkish rule are a modern day fairy tale. The facts on the ground are such:
1. The medinah exists.”
Hopefully not for long!
“2. It’s facilitating the fulfillment of the mitzvah of living in Eretz Yisrael and studying Torah in Eretz Yisrael en masse.”
Yea, actually Jews lived there and had Yeshivos there before the Medina!
“3. Ceeding land presents a clear danger to the lives of Yidden and is assur d’oraita.”
I said give up the whole country. But as for ceeding land lots of Gedolim held you could for peace, like Rav Schach zt’l.
“4. Hashem runs the World. Don’t like it? Take it up with Him. I advise doing so from Eretz Yisrael, preferably the Kotel.”
Yes, he does run the world and Moshiach will come much quicker without the Medina in existance!