Zeeskite
Thanks for responding. To your first point, it just illustrates my point in that their lack of ruach hakodesh and foresight created the Catch 22 situation of choosing death over the treifa Medina. For centuries, ghettos and the Pale of Settlent and laws banning access to many professions served to aid keeping everyone frum. Secularism didn’t exist and the goyim gave the gedolim to enforce halacha thru the shtetls bais din
The gedolim didn’t recognize that in the 1800,s things started to spin out of control. With more options, the frum world began to lose more a.d more Jews to the various isms (Zionism, secularism, socialism etc )when and with each pogrom they left Europe. However unlike other exiles which were forced( but were accompanied by the gedolim who guided their flock,this one was self motivated and against the gedolims wishes. Instead of recognizing that millions were going anyway and sending the best and brightest to guide them, they were left unguided and their children were I’m any cases taught in chefets by bitter men who could fond no other work