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charliehall
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“He gave info to an Allie who should according to treaties been privy to the info regardless “

Nope. The US does not have mutual defense treaties with Israel. Furthermore, Pollard was not authorized to release such information to anyone.

“he made a plea deal which the U.S. reneged on.”

Nope. He and his ex-wife violated the terms of the plea deal by giving interviews without permssion. Prosecutors and judges are not lenient with people who violate plea agreements.

“such blatant miscarriage of justice and religous discrimination”

Nope. There is no evidence of religious discrimination here. John Walker has been in prison longer than Pollard.

“present concrete actions to take”

Have him fill out applications for parole and clemency. He has been eligible for parole for 15 years but has never applied.

“free an ally’s agent who did nothing whatsoever harmful to the US”

You do not know that. None of us know what Pollard sold to Israel, or what Israel did with the information.

“if pollard was a black he wouldve been freed a long time ago by all the black activists”

You have no evidence of that. How many African Americans have been convicted of espionage?

” bush didn’t free pollard either”

Nor did Reagan or the first Bush.

“When the punishment is grossly unproprtional to the crime”

Is it really unproportional? Walker, Ames, and Hanssen also got life sentences. Walker has been in prison longer than Pollard. And the Rosenbergs were executed after having been convicted of spying for a then-ally.

“much more than any comparable conviction”

As I showed above, this statement is a lie. Why do we have to lie?

“In times of war, it is punishable by the death penalty.”

Or not in times of war. See the Rosenbergs. Pollard got off easy compared to them.

” He is the ONLY person in this history of the US with a conviction of life for spying for an ally “

Highly disingenuous. The Rosenbergs were executed for spying for an ally. And Israel technically was not an ally but a neutral country as the US does not have a formal mutual defense treaty with it.

The poor quality of the arguments used here show why Pollard is still in prison and will likely remain so.

One more comment:

“why are all of the roshei yeshiva and gedolim [who have shaychos] staunchily anti-democrat”

First of all, this is not true; Rabbi Genack of YU is a staunch Democrat who campaigned for Sen. Clinton. There are other counterexamples.

Second, it should be pointed out that there is NO reason for Obama to release Pollard if we are going to continue the terrible vitriol against him — and other Democrats — in forums such as this.