nem621 -“what i mean is we have to help the state survive while obviously praying for geula and an actual frum state but this secular government is much better than many other options and one can be haredi and attend yeshiva with no problem and the army? well now they are instituting haredi brigades and if some one is capable of learning all day he is allowed to do so (and he should).”
Your post sounds like you are trying to talk it into yourself.
“secular government is much better than many other options”
Who says? Maybe giving the Medina to Turkey would be better for Yiddishkeit.
“and one can be haredi and attend yeshiva with no problem”
Really -“no problem”? I think most Frum people consider a Draft -a problem.
“well now they are instituting haredi brigades”
And even here you can be Oiver things like Kol Isha.
Wake up to reality. The Medina is Not conducive to being a Frum Yid.