Reply To: Chinuch

TLTIK

I fail to see what my “blind perceptions” are.

I think I have made clear I acknowledge that there are problems in the community.

In fact I have made the point that since around 15 years ago when the famous JO came out and certain practices, and proffessions were introduced to our communities since it was made clear that it was the lack of them that were causing these problems and the introduction of them would solve these “problems” these problems have gotten worse.

You seem to be unable to ansewer that point.

We were told they would get better instead they gor worse.

I furthermore pointed out that Satmar is acommunity which successfully dealt and solved two of the biggest crisis that are facing the ORthodox Jewish Community.

Tuition (in itself a problem) and the fact that children are not being allowed into school becuase of tuition.

This was done by Rabbonim and without “proffesionals”.

Secondly were the Chasunah Takonos which have undenioably been most succesfully implemented by Satmar.

Again this was done without proffesionals.

It was done by askonim working under the direct leadership of Rabbonim.

A third crisis which I would mention is the ranging spread of technology in our community.

The unfiltered access to the internet is recognized by everyone.

I repeat everyone including non-jews to be dangerous (I beleive something like 20% of abuse starts through Social Media).

To the best of my knowledge it once again is not proffesionals solving this crisis.

It is Rabbonim and Youngeleit, that have made heavy inroads into stopping this and thereby arresting one of the greatest single causes of tragedies now-a-days.

You have failed to address a single point.

You have failed to explain how it is that the introduction of certain chinuch practices championed by “up to date” professionals and “marital training” techniques has led to the complete breakdown of the moral fabric of East Cost Society.

You have failed to explain why in the 15 years since these practices have entered our communities, in the 15 years since these “professionals began to be treated somewhat seriously in our communities.

Things have gotten worse.

I believe I am making valid points.

I further believe that I am asking valid questions.

I do not see where you have even attempted to ansewer me.

In my buisness I get a couple of years to set up shop.

Sooner or later though you have to turn a profit if however you continue to lose money you go bankrupt and lose every investor.

When does an entire field that has never once been able to show succcess on awidespread basis admit that they are wrong?

When do we start to realize that there are problems and they have to be solved but the solutions we’ve tried are not working.

They are making things worse, much worse.