@DY I asked a shaila and i was allowed so obviously it happens. dealing with internet for adults is different than dealing with internet for children – my rosh yeshiva believes that children should not be on internet connected computers whatsoever. You are creating a straw man argument again with the recreational and business internet users – what i obviously meant is that it is a way of life for people asking people to change that is difficult and the only way to get the results you want is to treat them like normal people as opposed to people who are irredeemable. to say it is not difficult for people is silly and i feel that there are certain rabbonim who because they are not fully aware of what people are going through are more than a little callous with their language.
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