Also, re the side benefits of secular education in terms of analytical skills and creativity.
I agree that the way many yeshivos teach gemara is not very good, but I still think the guys are picking it up anyway. My experience with yeshiva guys who have little secular education is very positive as far as analytical and creative skills.
But I still concur that you need to give your kids the tools to live in the world, and many of our schools don’t prepare them for that. The smart ones can take the LSAT and go to Harvard, but not all of us are so smart.
I once discussed this with my rosh yeshiva, and he said “they can get a GED”. I didn’t quite know what to respond to that.