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JayMatt19
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@HaKatan

You are still trying to bring a proof from Lot, you can’t.

I’m asking for a proof that a YID can get punished for the actions of a goy, and you show me that Lot (a goy) needed special protection to be saved due to the actions of a different type of Goy.

I’m not saying that a goy who is anti-toeva can’t be punished along with a group of goyim who are pro-toeva. I agree, he can.

I’m not saying a Muslim can’t be punished along with a group of Antiests, he sure can.

I’m asking for a proof that a Yid can be punished due to the actions of a goy.

Shabbos Lamed Gimmel Amud Beis

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Why did R’ Shimon need to answer why the babies suffer? Say teva “Well, mom and dad have it, so obviously the baby gets it”, Why not Oy L’Rasha or kivan…?

These answers weren’t good enough for R’ Shimon, and he had to have a reason why each man, woman and child independently sinned and thus were punished