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What I am saying is that in the outside world (per my personal experiences as a health care person) it is NOT a given that rsuscitation is humanitarian. That is what I am saying. I agree with you 100%! But the view of hospitals etc does NOT agree. When my dad needed o- blood in his last days, the team asked us if we wouldn’t consider saving it for a young person who might need it more. Secular people all over are adamant about not wanting to be resuscitated late in their lives. They honestly believe that our push to revive people is selfish and torturous. And that comment about the ribs was from the ethics committee trying to push my dad to sign a DNR for my dying mother. It’s so prevalent I am surprised you are surprised (may you never bump into it out there!!!)