ROFL! No one made a tumult about Bnei Torah when there were few of those and when they were barely visible! May I point out to the attention of mdd, Bobby Fischer, and whoever else feels like you, we can have ghettoes among the antisemites; if *that* is the purpose of the Medinat, then the Medinat is unnecessary.
rebdoniel, I agree with you. If the country, despite being welcoming of all sort of lifestyles, can’t accept haredim, then things have to change. Someone is a committed Zionist? they should sign allegiance and have citizenship and serve in the military and in the wars declared by the Knesset and the government those citizens will choose. Everyone else – those who are children or grandchildren of citizens – those who by chance were born in Israel – those who emigrated decades ago – enough demanding from those people and creating trouble if they come to Israel for their relatives’ wedding, enough using these names for padding the statistics of the Medinat, which, despite the dubious “converts” and other “lost tribes”, is not necessarily a country with the same demographic majority as it was in the 60s, and of course, enough with demanding money from abroad, enough with pushing upon us Israeli suboptimal financial investments, enough with requesting we buy “Made in Israel” second-choice goods at outrageous prices, and enough with sending us all sort of drug-users and wierdos and dishonest people who show up, flash their passport and demand, let us at least check if they are jewish or are only registered by the State of Israel as such. As for the Israeli Jews who are uninterested in an allegiance oath, be them Bnei Torah or workers or professionals or anything else, I agree, they should all leave, along with their blessings, and bring their blessings elsewhere. Problem solved. Only one little question, may I wonder what will be done with the other non-zionist citizens of the Medinat? deport them after revoking their citizenship? There are huge lots more than 400 non-zionist Arabs and among them, many are much less silent and quiet than Bnei Torah. Will you guys make a tumult about that?