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1) Background checks dont come into play here. I would dump the violent culture first. Yes. If the government wouldnt be so good at messing everything up i would support a ban on all things violent in nature. We as a people need to decide that we’ve reached our tolerance limit for violent crime and collectively decide not to support a violent culture. It could start with education … but then people will be yelling first ammendment.

2) The US laws are sacred in a secular way. You dont just write them to show that your trying to do something. Every law written, no matter how innocuous, slowly chips away at our freedom and could eventually come back to bite us. We are supposed to deliberate and debate them rationally, not politically or emotionally to see if it is really necessary or practical.

3) I never insinuated that they were. I said the guns were illegal. I dont think they were registered in their name.

4) Explain to me how calif , with the tightest control, proves that the laws work when they are number 18 – with one being the most murders. They are in the 25% that have the most homicides. They also had the most murders last year. I dont want to get more “perfect” than that.

5) Most of this topic was covered under 2&3. But whats to stop anyone from using the gun? Should you be banned from purchasing a gun if you have a relative who is/ needs/ should be/ will be in need of mental health care? There are enough guns circulating legally and illegally that background checks would do nothing but create a database of people that own firearms or want to own firearms. That is a violation of my privacy.

6) Me thinks the nra is highly politicized.