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I used a Kenwood for a long time and loved it. After a while it would blow during the dough kneeding process as it was too heavy for it. I treated myself to a Bosch. At that time it came with a stainless steel bowl. I love it. I have carpal tunnel and cannot knead dough by hand. I have made challah with 9 cups and 18 cups of flour. The results are fabulous! Believe it or not, I still use the Kenwood for cakes as I do not like the cake bowl which comes with the Bosch. It is like a bundt cake bowl and I do not find it easy to work with. I like making cakes in a large deep bowl. Would love if the Bosch came with a bowl for cakes like the bowl for the challah. I have a sister-in-law who loves her Magic Mill. Her challah is also delicious. When my daughter got married she got the Bosch. Good luck with your decision!