simcha613 -“Some yes and some no. From the way I understand there are two Charedi positions about the existence of the medinah. Some would theoretically support a medinah, but are against the current one with its secular values. While others are against the concept of a medinah before Mashiach. They also view the army differently too. The first group may not see something inherently treif with the army, their position is that it doesn’t override Talmud Torah, and that the army needs to meet all the religious needs of its soliders. The other camp’s position is that one is not allowed to aid the medinah at all, as it is a ma’aseh Satan.”
Noone from the Frum community supported a Medina. This is the Mizrachi Shita. The question was what to do after it was created.
“Some would theoretically support a medinah, but are against the current one with its secular values.”
This statement which you ascribe to the Charedim is the Mizrachi Shitta, but this is what bothers me. The MO believe in all the Rabbonim that say we should have a Medina before Moshiach, but they believe in a Medina acc. to Halacha -so why do they support a Medina that is based on Kefira and all they believe in is secular values?????