interesting…so the murder of innocent people is not against your morals…maybe we should get cynical in here so he can tell us if conservative has anything about that…
the people of a democratic country dictate its policy. it is one thing to falsely IMPRISON someone it is another to falsely EXECUTE them. you have to understand that while i am well aware of teh fact that we do not have our own independent jewish justice system in this country, and therefore we must rely on the secular courts to maintain law and order.
this does NOT mean that we should throw away all morality! a trial by jury is nothing more than a popularity contest. think about, you drag 12 people who were too dumb to get out of jury duty in the first place out of their la Z boys to sit and watch professional practitioners of the law parade in front of them smiling and trying to win them over. that is not justice it is mob rule. now…its true its what we have, but should we not try to keep it within reasonable boundaries?
as i said above, the people of a democracy define its laws, the more people are against the death penalty the more likely it is for states to abolish it. as for your ridiculous statement of “Our only job in this world is to do what G-d wants. G-d wants us to run our courts in a certain way, and for the goyim to run their courts in a certain way. The results are G-d’s job. (He does a good job.)” i say thats fine for god, but what about YOU?!?
who is to say that we are not upset of a jewish murderer is killed? first of all one is not chayav misa if tehy kill goyim, second of all before you trot out dina d’malchusa dina let me remind you that dina d’malchusa can be changed by popular sentiment in this country.
lock them up in jail for 25 years…go ahead, but dont kill them. it is not worth the lives of the few for the lives of the many. and for those that are guilty? as you said god will sort it out for himself!
by the way just to address the ridiculous argument of deterrant, first of all, do youi really thing the killer is in the proper frame of mind for that? lets analyze this:
1) a professional killer does not care about that. he is fully aware and money means more to him
2) a man who walks in on his wife cheating and blows his wife and the milkman away. is he really in the frame of mind?
3) a thug, or someone with a grudge who benefits nothing but the satisfaction of the death. do you really thing he will be sitting there pondering the pros and cons of either punishment? “hmm..maybe i shouldnt kill him, theyll kill me after 20 years of appeals and lots of red tape…whats that you say? the death penalty is abolished and teh penalty now is only 25 years to life in prison with no possibility of parole? shoot, NOW i’ll do it!” think about…its absolutely ridiculous. the death penalty for murder was never a deterrent, it was revenge and as i said, revenge is fine for the guilty but what about the innocents who have been killed?