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g_a_w:Out of that shittah comes the Kollel guys who claim that taking out garbage is “beneath them”. I hear, it is a “Lakewood” shittah

Honestly, I would have thought a thought like that would have been beneath you. I don’t know much at all about Lakewood (in America), but I’m sure that’s pure motzi shem ra.

Once again, you are “playing G-d” by making the Tachlis of every woman not to learn. Who are you to tell the Ribbono Shel Olam why He put a specific woman in this world? Perhpas “B’derech Klal” we can say they have a Netiyah (Chazal say so), but for an individual?

I am speaking in generalizations. The only difference is that I’m also questioning whether an urge to learn Torah is a valid netiya.

The only story I know about Rabbi Joseph Soloveitchik is about the woman who came to him wanting to put on a tallis . He told her to try out a non-Kosher one for x amount of time to see if she would really get anything out of it. At the end of that amount of time, she came back and said that she had. He then sent her on her way, because it was clearly in her head being as the tallis wasn’t kosher.

If it is beneath “Kavod HaToyrah” to cook for one’s family (or one’s self), it is certainly beneath them to take out the garbage.

I don’t know why you pulled kavod haTorah into it. Is that part of the famous Lakewood shitta? My understanding of Rav Ahron Kotler’s Rebbitzen’s admonishment is that she objected to his being in the kitchen on the grounds that he was male, not a ben Torah. I could have misunderstood it.