shikron: as far as lowering the age to 18- well, I will tell you that I would oppose this. Why should other 18 year olds haver to go three years to the army and the chareidim nothing? that will not fly. as per your second point- we are now in a give and take situation-There has been nothing given b ythe chareidim- they are fighting every possible change tooth and nail and by doing this, they weaken many of their supporter’s hands- for now, the “other’ side plays hardball the same as the chareidi side plays hardball. There should be acomproimse somewhere but i don’t see it yet.
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