This may be a politicly incorrect thing to say and I’m not sure that the mods will let this up, but many people who are OTD are just as sure that being frum is wrong as you are that it is correct. The fact of the matter is there are no logical proofs that being frum is correct and the emotional benefits may not be apparent to somone who has not experienced them. Somone may also be of the opinion that they are not enough of a reason to be frum.
Whatever one wants to see they’ll see. Truthseekers find truth and those who don’t want to face the truth, do not.
You have to respect and accept that not evreyone is going to agree with your opinion of unprovable things …
Unprovable? Of course, if you want the proofs to be anything but, it takeh won’t be. Millions of people accept the murdering of others they deem infidels as rightous deeds. Why? Do you think they really WANT to know the truth? It is easier, more conveinint AND they enjoy the talking and thinking of murder (no not everyone actually does it, b”H)as American’s enjoy their baseball games. Would they really want to do the right thing they would not need to go too far to realize that murder is murder.
…and that thinking less of them and pitying them for it is going to come across as arrogant and wrong.
If the Torah spoke the truth about greater humans than OTD’s because the truth needs to be said regardless how these people felt, then we too cannot make decisions on what others feel. I’m not saying we should be rude to OTD’s but those who believe that the Torah is divine and observing the mitzvos is of paramount importance need to be honest with ourselves regardless how we feel about that.
PS. I do not want to debate so called “proofs” on YWN anymore then I have. Not because I can’t but because it is frustrating when your replys dont get posted or the threads get closed when you answer. If you want just research it and actualy read both sides of the arguments. In some cases you can simply google a proof i.e. kuzari proof followed by the word “refutation of”.
How can I find refutations to what I’ve said in the thread The Torah is Emes regarding the Aztecs and more importantly the tochechah?