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000646 ah gutten voch.
You didn’t come across condescending at all and that’s why I apologized for my tone. In fact, I loved our discussions about the Aztec’s and other topics.
The reason I don’t want to discuss with you what wasn’t posted is this: the Torah is emes regardless if we humans view it as such or not. It doesn’t matter. The truth is the truth. And why I can say that with such conviction is the more I learn, look and contemplate in the Torah, the more I see logical proofs that it is the truth. If the Torah would be untrue, under analysis, it would fall apart.
Now I am aware that you have what you consider valid evidence that the Torah is not from a divine source.
So why wouldn’t I want to discuss that angle?
It is very simple. Since I believe in God, in a Creator, would an atheist scientist, may he be considered a top scientist in his field, tell me, let me show you my proofs that there is no Creator. I’ll discuss with you all my “scientifical evidence” and I even created a computerized model of how the world came into being and I even have it here on a disk.
Would I even look at that? The answer is no. I’m not even interested bacause for me there is a Creator and it doesn’t matter what kind of evidence a human brain can come up with support of their theories that there is no Creator to make it seem like it’s a fact that there is no Creator. It doesn’t interest me in the least bit. Kol sheken, would such a fabrente athiest scientist argue with me and try to prove the validity of his “proofs” I’d say “You will not concince me, and I will not convince you that there is a Creator, so what’s the point in arguing about it?”
So while you are not arguing about the whether there is a Creator or not, you are trying to prove to me that the Torah is not of a divine source, which I know with complete, unshakeable faith that it is. So what’s the point of our going back and forth?
I am not interested to hear what human brains have cooked up to invalidate the fact that the Torah is not of a divine source. What seems convincing in this day and age to humans can seem totaly stupid in 100 years. Look at ancient Egypt, with their belief in gods which they worshipped and believed in. Who believes today that their beliefs were valid? In fact one wonders how normal humans ever believed in what seems to us as plain fairytales.
Throughout the centuries people always came up with meshugasin and as real as it seemed then as dumb as it seems to us that the people believed in such things.
And so even if millions of people believe in the Hindu religion, I certainly don’t think that a god can be made of gold and stone and neither do I believe in Christianity and Islam which are manmade versions of Judaism for a variety of reasons.
If you claim that Judaism doesn’t make sense either or any religion for that matter, then do you think God made us for no reason at all? Do you think this amazing gift of life is something that is stam because God wanted to have fun? If we go with that reasoning then there is no reason not to steal, murder, or do any other sin that humans innately know is wrong because there is no reason not to do that if we were created for no reason at all. Life is then a free for all. For what purpose do I need to be kind to others, for what purpose do I need to follow the law of land (I’ll hide my illegal stuff so I won’t get caught and go to jail) for what purpose do I need to do what’s right?
There has to be some reason why we were created, why we need to do right because then otherwise the Muslim terrorists are not terrorists at all, the Nazis weren’t bad people, and neither were those who took part in the Inquisition – they all just followed their accepted ideological reasoning of their times.
And therefore, looking at all reasoning of humans throughout the ages and throughout the world, with all their mushagasin, and foolish ideas and all their cruelty, I am not interested in what they have to say, I’m not interested in their reasoning regarding the Torah. And I’m also not interested in trying to change your mind just as I’m not interested in trying to change an athiests mind, because I cannot change anyone’s mind if they are not open to what I’m saying. I can sit here from today until eternity, we can go back and forth and I will not change your mind because belief that the Torah is from a divine source needs to come from YOUR HEART, not my blogs.
I do believe that in your pintele Yid you believe that the Torah is divine. But for various reasons your heart doesn’t feel it. But if you will search for the real truth you will eventually, with Hashems help, find it.