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Sam2
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I don’t get it Joe. Do you get your kicks making up random things about groups of people so as to facilitate less Achdus in Klal Yisrael? What’s your goal? There is no one, and I mean no one, in the YU camp (whose slogan is Torah Umadah) that believes anywhere near that Torah and science have equal value. The Yeshivah student in YU spends at least 8 hours in Seder/shiur a day while a maximum 5 hours in classes (maybe some science labs involve a little more class time, I’m not sure). You’re being stupid and Motzi Shem Ra on hundreds, if not thousands, of B’nei Torah (not to mention the tens of thousands of graduates and Baalei Batim that support YU’s Derech). The Mada in those who believe in Torah Umada is that the Mada enhances the Torah, nothing else. Math, history, sciences, etc. can all be used to understand Torah. If you’re actually interested in knowing what the people you needlessly hate so much believe (I doubt that you are, but if you are) then read some of R’ Aharon Lichtenstein’s works. You might realize that the people you so bluntly and casually dismiss are actually living the same Torah lifestyle you are.

But this whole thing is stupid. It is a semantics game played by those looking for a reason and excuse to dismiss other Jews. That’s why I always try to remember to put the words, “MO”, “Yeshivish”, “Chareidi”, etc. in quotes. They are pejorative terms that, unless necessary to describe one of the minute cultural differences, do nothing but massive harm to Hashem’s nation.