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Do you really think you are first person who discovered America? This issue has been mulled over by many Gedolei Yisroel. Some held it violates the principle you refer to and some explained how it doesn’t. Nobody, though, went along with it as a prayer to angels. The Chasam Sofer famously felt uncomfortable with it but not enough to abolish it, although he personally avoided saying it. The Maharal offers two explanations of how it is meant to be said. It has been discussed since then by many, many Gedolim. Then came the researcher. He realy figured it all out.

Even Rav Shrira Gaon, who says that we may actually pray to an angel, is borrowing the term and doesn’t really mean prayer as we use the term.

Sorry. Look for another example of how we don’t hold like the 13 Ikkarim — so that we can stretch that to Torah Min Shamayim or who knows what else.

Perhaps after that there will be room for THIS FELLOW to be considered Frum. Who knows.