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October 2, 2013 6:04 am at 6:04 am
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rebdoniel
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People I know who were raised frum/Orthodox and stopped keeping shabbos are not to be treated like a tinok shenishba. A tinok shenishba, by definition, is someone who was never raised with shabbos. An OTD person, therefore, who violates shabbos be farhesya (ie/they drive on shabbos, write, go to work, etc.) must be treated like a goy le kol davar. They cannot be counted towards a minyan; the kohanim in their ranks cannot duchan. They cannot be given aliyot le torah. And they cannot be allowed to touch wine that is not mevushal. For all intents and purposes, an OTD person is treated like an aino yehudi.