Moq: The rishonim are clearly disagreeing, they dont waste time and ink on examples. And for those that bother learning tur beis yosef and sh”a )not pischey brachos) the beis yosef ramah and all the poskim state clearly its a machlokes, so again its brachos books vs rishonim and poskim. After u take out some time to learn the rishonim and poskim, and put aside the brochos books, i will reveal a mareh makom that says like u, but obvsly “ayn halacho kumoso”, with all due respect, ur holy brother
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