Sam2- you will have to show me which part of torah I transgressed to claim that I lost my chelek in olam haboh. Torah shebaal peh extends throughout all generations-including ours, my point is that it only applies to halacha, not any other matter. There are numerous examples that midrash and agaddata are not to be taken literally.
DaasYochid- if you feel we are worlds apart- so be it. I don’t see where I ‘challenged’ chazal. Actually, all I originally said that it was a very harsh penalty for “Tur Shimon”, as the trasngression was (almost) minor and the Jerushalmi needs elucidation. Actually ,I believe that “Tur SHimom’ did exist and was destroyed (please not ,Sam2) and I only questioned the assessment of the punishment. And clearly, a new halacha (ball playing0 cannot be learned fro mthat.
SO, to both of you- you will have to explain how my understanding of agaddate differs from many other rishonim and acharonim who clearly said that agadatas are no to be taken literally.