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fkelly– ur teacher didnt mean not to keep those things- no denim or 4inches.. girls have to be taught what is really halacha and what are sensitivities than they can choose for themleves what they want. halacha says the entire knee must be covered in all posotions so the rabanim said only a skirt that is 4 inches below the knee can do that (which is true). denim is no halacha but it does say bchukosehem lo telechu- dont follw in their ways- goyim. which all of the in style ppl can fall into that issur. why does everyone get stuck on the little details. hashem wants whats best for us why do we think we know better and try to get away with the most we could and act like goyim