Goan Atzum,
You’re right that they do not hate us for “nothing”. I was just trying to bring out a point that people (particularly jews) should not legitimize (is that a word?) the Goyim’s hate to us. Exactly as you say, they hate us because of their Jealousy of our Torah and moral life, not because of anything that we do.
cantoresq,
This topic was SUPPOSED to be about cleanliness but I think the way this Topic was worded by FrumCouple calls for a discussion of a much deeper and more important topic.