Thanks for all the suggestions, I really do most of them already, and try very hard not to get angry. I have no interest in discipline types of solutions as that is not the issue. They are the ones who want to be up. And I don’t mind clock suggestions, they just don’t work. I actually do make them say verbally that they are up before I consider it so, but this is about how they sleep, not when they went to bed or whether or not they feel like it. They are not “laying in bed”, they are sleeping.
golfer – so right! My babies never slept long, I have been suffering from sleep deprivation for years, but when my babies were asleep, they slept through EVERYTHING. And I never woke them for feedings or scheduling or any of that. I think this is very hormonal because the problem doesn’t begin til later. My younger ones wake themselves.
Oh – and if any of you see one of my kids here can you switch the topic and pretend we were talking about something else? Thanks