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oomis, its an issue whats going on with the clothing nowadays. its an attractive lifestyle to dress certain ways and if it goes against some BASIC torah values, the last resort may sometimes be making fun. laitzanoosa davoidah zara is a real thing. im not saying you shud say it to the guys face or about a specific person but MAKING FUN of these things to ones children is a useful tool in showing how crazy some wrong actions are. “
OYOYOY, I don’t know where to begin. Basic Torah values are not the question. people who follow BASIC Torah values ARE doing the right thing. I get the sense from what you posted, that you subscribe to the belief that basic Torah values are NOT basic. And to teach one’s children to make fun of these things, is IMO, not such a wise middah for a parent to teach a child.
I always taught my children when they observed certain behaviors which I found negative (even if not oveir on a mitzvah per se), that this is not how WE in our family behave, although some other mommies and daddies feel it is OK for their children to do so.
I’ll give you an example. I am not Yeshivish, but in my life I NEVER allowed my kids to ride on riding toys in the street OR in the house on Shabbos. We taught them from day one that there is certain behavior that we do during the week, and certain behavior that we do on Shabbos, and that we don’t want them to do weekday things on Shabbos.
My neighbors, very lovely young couples who are all Yeshivish, allow their young kids (below bar-mitzvah age, but even close to it)on Shabbos, to ride on toys that look like cars, trucks, tricycles,scooters, etc. It frankly shocks me, but apparently is not assur. These are all choshuveh people, some of them from the homes of Roshei Yeshivah. I in my non-Yeshivish household, would never have even thought to allow kids to ride on toys that resemble muktzeh item, just for chinuch ALONE, even if not technically an issur.
But I would never make FUN of these families, much less make fun of them to my CHILDREN, just because I have a different hashkafah. Maybe MY hashkafa is a chumrah, and my kids could have all along used those same toys on Shabbos. I have no charata on the chinuch part.
Even if someone is chas v’sholom mechalleil Shabbos, you should not make FUN of him. There is a difference between teaching your kids what you feel is the right thing to do and what you expect of them, and teaching them to disrespect another person, who does something else.
Perhaps you didn’t actually mean “make fun of” but rather to be pointing out that we do things differently, and in our opinion the other person is not doing what the Torah teaches us.