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February 20, 2013 12:20 am at 12:20 am #608288Torah613TorahParticipant
Why do the 4 mitzvos on Purim start with a ??
(Don’t say 440, why don’t we have 40 mitzvos on Purim then?)
February 20, 2013 12:42 am at 12:42 am #931984WIYMemberMaybe its a Remez to the 2nd 40 days that Moshe Rabbeinu was in Shomayim after which Hashem proclaimed Salachti Kidvarecha, so its a hint that its a day of Selichah Umechila for all eternity for Klal Yisroel. Yom Kippur is Yom Kippurim the day that is like Purim…
February 22, 2013 8:03 am at 8:03 am #931985HaLeiViParticipantOr because 4×40 ??. And since ? is Nis’chalef with ?, it is the same as ??. So these four Mitzvos took the place of the Sak.
February 22, 2013 2:31 pm at 2:31 pm #931986tzaddiqMemberwhat does the title have to do with the question?
February 22, 2013 4:26 pm at 4:26 pm #931987Torah613TorahParticipantWIY and HaLeivi: Thanks! Haleivi, is there a source for that, or just a particularly creative mood?
Tzaddiq – I learned that this passuk ends with ?’s to remind us that in the future, knowledge of Hashem will cover the 4 corners of the earth. But I always wondered, why the gematriya of 40 for 4?
And here we have 4 mitzvos that begin with ? which equals 40.
February 22, 2013 5:58 pm at 5:58 pm #931988WIYMemberTorah
There are many different forms of calculation used in gematriah. One of the forms of gematria, termed the reduced value system, is based on the decimal system, where every letter of ten and above reduces to one digit, its numerical lowest common denominator. The fact that mathematics itself is based on the decimal system of ten is of course extremely important. The number ten is highly symbolic and significant in Torah and appears in virtually all manifestations of Jewish tradition.
February 22, 2013 6:33 pm at 6:33 pm #931989Torah613TorahParticipantWIY: So you’re saying that 40 and 4 are all the same number when it comes to this type of thing?
February 22, 2013 7:54 pm at 7:54 pm #931990WIYMemberTorah613Torah
Im not a baki on Gematriyah, but what I do know is that there are a number of different ways that the kabbalistic traditions have to do gematriyah and any one of those ways are all valid in kabbalah. Is one better than the other? I don’t know, but they are all valid if its a valid form of gematria. But yes it is very common that mem will be 4.
Reduced value (in Hebrew: mispar katan, modulus 9 in mathematical terminology):
Each letter is reduced to a figure of one digit. For example, in this reckoning, alef equals 1, yud equals 10, kuf equals 100) would all have a numerical value of 1; beit equals 2, kaf equals 20, and reish equals 200 would all have a numerical value of 2, and so on. Thus, the letters have only nine equivalents, rather than twentytwo.
from inner dot org
February 22, 2013 8:00 pm at 8:00 pm #931991CuriosityParticipantI don’t understand your premise.. is the fourth mitzvah not a seudah? Seudat mitzvah starts with a samech. Unless you want to call it a mishteh…

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