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July 11, 2022 5:03 pm at 5:03 pm #2105257Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
RebE > More religious can be influenced from less religious. We should not hate them but we should avoid mixing also.
I agree. It is not easy. My initial concern is about observant people in general, not about lack of it. There is also an issue of separation between “frum” and “modern”. This usually means that “modern” have an expensive private school where they mix with non-observants who are looking for a good prep school with Jewish kids. I think what is mixing is a school with shomer shabbos parents where kids have an _option_ for college track, even if not Ivy league, but reasonably respectable quality.July 14, 2022 2:15 pm at 2:15 pm #2106171
There is a story where Meshiach arrives with a turned up hat in a shul, so he is told over here we wear our hats bend down. When he goes to an other shul, he is told over here we wear our hats bent up. Then he is told in Young Israel, what do you need a hat for in the first place? So he says, I am going back and only come again when you can at least agree on a hat.July 14, 2022 3:19 pm at 3:19 pm #2106189
Someone said once, I found a steady job but it does not pay well. I am out watching on a tower when Meshiach will come.July 14, 2022 9:56 pm at 9:56 pm #2106251yungermanSParticipant
Mashiach is waiting on a tower to fly down to thus temporary world from serving Hashem upstairs in the true world 24-7
Just like Eliyahu Hanavi thousands of years ago sat on a rock waiting for the dvar Hashem to come to him to give over to klal yisroel and king achav including returning to Hashem with serious teshuva and remove themselves from the worthless gods of the avoda Zara of the Baal….
May we all remove ourselves quickly from the avoda Zara of todays generation of “MONEY” and stop bowing down to it, running after it and serving it like a God etc…. And then Hashem will not need to make the money market and economy crash and take it away from us anymore C”V as bad as we have already lost but have still not woken up to Hashems wake up call to avoid it getting worse C”VJuly 15, 2022 9:46 am at 9:46 am #2106277
“Mashiach is waiting on a tower”
Not necessarily is he waiting so far away.
The possuk says: “הנה זה עומד אחר כתלנו, משגיח מן החלונות מציץ מן החרכים”
The Frierdiker Lubavitcher Rebbe (the Rayatz) explains this regarding Moshiach: He is already here with us, just on the other side of the wall. The wall already has cracks, and he watches us, waiting, “When will they finish their last avodah so I can come?”
Hopefully, the holy gaze of Moshiach should be enough to affect us and propel us forward into the last preparations for his arrival.July 15, 2022 10:00 am at 10:00 am #2106279
I heard a vort from Rabbi YY Jacobson:
A man was celebrating his 50th aniversarry, he was asked how he has such good shalom bayis.
He explained that while on their honeymoon, he and his wife rode through the Grand Canyon on mules. His wife’s mule slipped, and she yelled out “Strike one!” Soon it slipped again and she screamed “Strike two!” The third time she yelled, “Strike three!” pulled out a handgun, and shot the mule dead.
The husband turned to his wife in horror, and cried, “What are you doing!?”
She yelled at him, “Strike one!”
“And,” concludes the husband, “I’ve been quiet ever since!”
The vort is that true peace doesn’t mean that people are afraid to voice their opposing opinions so they keep silent and go with the flow. True peace is when you have a diverse group with disagreements, yet people are not afraid to voice their opinions and still remain friendly and peaceful with those who have the other opinion.July 15, 2022 7:14 pm at 7:14 pm #2106393Always_Ask_QuestionsParticipant
Esteemed YY re-purposed an old joke about a prince and princess and made it PC by having a woman pulling the gun. When did a woman need a 2nd amendment to keep peace in the family?! My F-I-L gave me a good eitza for sholom bayis: “always have a last word in every argument – ‘yes, mam’ “. Advice seems to help – he obviously knew his daughter better than I did at the time …July 17, 2022 12:13 am at 12:13 am #2106501
@Always: nu, I guess sholom bayis advice is never one-size-fits-all!July 22, 2022 12:21 am at 12:21 am #2108083GISH MAKParticipant
what about that we are spending our time and batling on internet the whole day thats why mashich not here yetJuly 22, 2022 6:26 am at 6:26 am #2108097
The Shevat Sofer interprets the pasuk אעשה לו עזר כנגדו when she is voicing an opposite view, she becomes a help. He can see the other side of an argument and does not get lost in tunnel vision by seeing one side only. The Midrash Shmuel explains that the Beis Shamai helped the Beis Hilel come to the truth by revealing to them the other side of an argument. Therefore they become also praise worthy and we will pasken like them leasid lavo, at the time of Meshiach.July 22, 2022 3:11 pm at 3:11 pm #2108198☕️coffee addictParticipant
“The Shevat Sofer interprets the pasuk אעשה לו עזר כנגדו when she is voicing an opposite view, she becomes a help. He can see the other side of an argument and does not get lost in tunnel vision by seeing one side only.“
I take it your wife isn’t a republican which explains a lot 😉July 22, 2022 3:34 pm at 3:34 pm #2108211
My wife passed away 12 years ago. She was very smart but after her heart stopped for 4 minutes, she was revived, became childlike and needed a walker. She passed away five years after that when she had afib (atrial fibrillation) and could not be revived again.July 22, 2022 6:22 pm at 6:22 pm #2108218☕️coffee addictParticipant
I’m sorry, I didn’t know….
But anyways are you saying that’s why your statement is true, because you have no one to be the other side politically?July 25, 2022 9:59 am at 9:59 am #2108595Avi KParticipant
If we have a state it is because sinat chinam has moderated. Lessing, in fact, thought that we would never have one because we could not get along. When was the last time there was a fist fight in shul over whether to say some tefilla? However, if the state is imperfect and we don’t have the Bet haMikdash, we obviously have a long way to go.
This fable once appeared in Mishpacha magazine:
Once upon a time, in the year 5780, after millennia of Jewish praying and yearning, the Mashiach finally arrived at the gates of Jerusalem.
He tried to enter through the first gate, but the gatekeeper, who was wearing a kippah serugah, seeing that the gentleman who claimed he was the Mashiach was not wearing a kippah serugah, doubted his authenticity and concluded that he must be a false Mashiach. The gatekeeper denied him admission.
The Mashiach tried a second gate, but the gatekeeper, who was wearing a black hat with a three-inch brim, seeing that the gentleman who claimed he was the Mashiach was not wearing a black hat with a three-inch brim, doubted his authenticity and concluded that he must be a false Mashiach. The gatekeeper denied him admission.
The Mashiach tried a third gate, but the gatekeeper, who was wearing a shtreimel, seeing that the gentleman who claimed he was the Mashiach was not wearing a shtreimel, doubted his authenticity and concluded that he must be a false Mashiach. The gatekeeper denied him admission.
So it went at all the seven gates to Jerusalem. Each of the gatekeepers at each of the remaining gates was wearing a different head covering:
At the fourth gate, a turban;
at the fifth gate, a gray fedora;
at the sixth gate, a black velvet yarmulke;
at the seventh gate, a black hat with a one-inch brim.
Wherever the Mashiach was not wearing the precise duplicate of the gatekeeper’s head covering, he created doubt and suspicion, was considered a false Mashiach, and was denied admission. Thus was he not permitted to enter any of the seven gates to Jerusalem.
And there he stands, waiting patiently for someone to let him in.
What kind of head covering was the Mashiach actually wearing?
He was wearing none of the above.
That’s because he was wearing all of the above.
A fantasy? Perhaps. Perhaps not.
Meanwhile, the Mashiach and all his head coverings linger patiently at the gate.July 25, 2022 12:09 pm at 12:09 pm #2108663
This is similar to what the Lubavitcher Rebbe said countless times, “Moshiach is already here, we just have to open up our eyes”
Let us open up our eyes, see the ניצוץ משיח in every Yid, and if we are ready to accept and greet the Moshiach in every Yid – we will be ready to accept the משיח הכללי without sending him away חס ושלום.
[ניצוץ משיח: ראה מאור עינים ס”פ פינחס. ועפ”ז מתווך כ”ק אדמו”ר מליובאוויטש ב’ דרשות בפסוק “דרך כוכב מיעקב” בירושלמי תענית (פ”ד ה”ה) וירושלמי מעשר שני (ספ”ד). – עיין קונטרס בית רבינו שבבל תשנ”ב, תורת מנחם חל”ד ע’ 102, ועוד]
מנחם שמוJuly 25, 2022 5:34 pm at 5:34 pm #2108811
If we don’t realize that we are in galus and do something about it, we will be kept there.July 25, 2022 5:35 pm at 5:35 pm #2108808
If we figure Meshiach is already here, we might further him away by not doing anything to bring him. Sinas Chinom will not stop. היום אם בקולו תשמעו, he can come today when we listen to Hashem.July 25, 2022 8:32 pm at 8:32 pm #2108884
“If we don’t realize that we are in galus and do something about it, we will be kept there.”
Hence the need to open up our eyes. This is a big and important avodaJuly 26, 2022 12:02 am at 12:02 am #2108938
There is a koach, potential and poal, action. The koach of Meshiach is here but we must bring him in poal. Tosfas explains the argument if the redemption was in Nissan or Tishri. Nissan in koach and Tishri in action.
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