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Who has a minhag to say Al Tira after Aleinu? It’s in all the Siddurim, that I’ve seen. And I’ve been to all sorts of Minyanim – Yeshivish, Chaisidish, Heimish, Sefardish, MO – and I never saw any of them say Al Tira.
Nusach ari Chabad says it.
i say it! I dont remember who taught me to- either a gerrer or someone who davens nusach sfard
Don’t people usually say it under their breath? I mean, if it’s in the siddur, I assume people say it. Usually, in my shul at least, they only say until about “vaanachnu kor’im” out loud. After that is anyone’s guess.
R Paysach Krohn said in one of his shmoozim that he says it (don’t remember why though)
I don’t say it, but then again, I wouldn’t go by anything I do considering the fact that I am (according to Chosson) without kedusha and taharah.
The Wolf
i say it-cuz thats what we said in elementary school. and its in the siddur.
There is only one location (I believe) where these three psukim are connected, and one might presume that this is the origin for this brief paragraph of psukim. The reference to the origin of the minhag to recite these is brought in the Kitzur Shelo”h and in the Avodas Hakodesh from the Chida”h. The Medrash (Esther Rabah 7:17) states that when the gezeirah of Haman was released, he and his co-conspirators followed Mordechai and saw him stop three children emerging from yeshiva. Mordechai asked the first which was the last posuk he was learning, and he answered “Al Tiroh ……”. He asked the second child, “Utztu eitzah ……..”, and the third responded, “Ve’ad ziknah ……….”. The Taz writes that he recited these psukim while the Shat”z was saying Sim Shalom. Presumably, the reason to conclude tefiloh with this recitation is to recount the love of HKB”H for Am Yisroel in golus, that He will redeem us and return us to Him.
The little I know, if you only know a little, then I must know almost nothing because I never knew that. Thanks!
I say Al Tira, but not because its my Minhag. I just say it because its there. However, my father told me he says it too, so I guess it IS my minhag!
I say it because my father says it and I assume his father said it too.
If you find out where it comes from that might give you some insight into who says it. (or should say it)
Itche: Where does it come from and what insight does it provide?
My minyan sings it after the last kaddish. It took me several months before I found that out, because I was never there after the last kaddish. Or even before the last kaddish.
WolfishMusings: someone really should come up with a database of every instance in which you felt slighted or annoyed or miffed or ticked or put-off or rankled or offended or indignant by another user, and TP your house with it.
Soliek i dont see The Wolf that way at all he doesn’t complain about other posters slighting him rather he is self deprecating and heaps abuse on himself.
Rabbi Krohn has stated in numerous talks that he started saying it the day after 9/11/2001 based on a talk by Mrs. Reifer A”H, the principal of Shevach High School.
“and its in the siddur”.
I like saying Al Tira because I put it to Carlbach’s tune under my breath.
And who says both (or any) Kale Erech Apayims during the week before taking out the Torah?
sushe: I don’t know. If I did, I would say
cherrybim: I say Minhag lita.
The Goq: whatever it is its incredibly annoying
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