March 11, 2019 2:21 pm at 2:21 pm #1692892HaimyParticipant
Several Purim’s ago a fine yeshiva bachur died after ingesting a few shots of schnapps because it interacted with a psychotropic drugs he was taking. Many boys are on these types of drugs for depression or adhd. They feel social pressure to join their friends in taking a drink which can be lethal.
Please keep this in mind before offering alcohol to a teenager. You will never be able to bring back a lost life.March 11, 2019 3:02 pm at 3:02 pm #1692968
Good point. When seeing a psychiatrist for a psychiatric condition, before he prescribes a drug, one should point out that one will be drinking for religious reasons and must only take drugs that can be safely taken with alcohol.March 11, 2019 3:58 pm at 3:58 pm #1693040The little I knowParticipant
Come on. The prescribing physician (whether psychiatrist or other) needs to prescribe the best medication for the condition, considering the specific needs of the patient. A generalization that has close to 100% accuracy, is that medications (of any kind) and alcohol don’t mix. Either there is the blocking of the effect, the synergy effect, or other interactions that can vary from the ho-hum to the fatal. One can always fulfill obligations for kiddush etc. with grape juice, or to be yotzeh with someone else. I would not limit a doctor’s ability to prescribe to preserve the option of drinking, especially heavy drinking. That constitutes severe confusion between an ikar and a tofel.
The poskim address the situation of the individual who cannot drink safely. This includes someone on meds, and also includes someone recovering from alcohol or drug addiction. Pikuach nefesh is not overridden by Purim. The entire holiday of Purim is about the preservation of life, that Haman wanted to exterminate all of Klal Yisroel, and that we were zocheh to be saved. To “celebrate” with risk to life is antithetical to the entire holiday.March 11, 2019 4:35 pm at 4:35 pm #1693056
The specific needs of the patient includes the need to drink alcohol.March 11, 2019 6:17 pm at 6:17 pm #1693157HealthParticipant
Yidd23 -“The specific needs of the patient includes the need to drink alcohol.”
Ok. I’ll drink to that! L’Chaim.March 11, 2019 7:28 pm at 7:28 pm #1693167
L’ChaimMarch 11, 2019 9:34 pm at 9:34 pm #1693317HaimyParticipant
I’m specifically addressing underage drinkers who may impulsively drink alcohol despite the danger involved with mixing with meds. It’s up to us adults to be responsible & not offer them a possibly life threatening substance.March 11, 2019 9:39 pm at 9:39 pm #1693330
Halacha doesn’t have this concept of an “underage drinker”. Halachically, these teens are adults, whether you like it or not.March 12, 2019 12:58 am at 12:58 am #1693371HealthParticipant
Haimy-“I’m specifically addressing underage drinkers who may impulsively drink alcohol despite the danger involved with mixing with meds. It’s up to us adults to be responsible & not offer them a possibly life threatening substance”
I’m a medical guy and an adult and I take lots of meds, but I drink on Purim. Ok, I’m not that irresponsible – I drink less than I used to!March 12, 2019 1:00 am at 1:00 am #1693372Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
It doesn’t really mean anything. Hashem will protect those who observe the mitzvah of getting drunk on Purim. Even if you drink 20 shots of vodka and drive, you’ll be fine.March 12, 2019 8:58 am at 8:58 am #1693436☕ DaasYochid ☕Participant
It doesn’t really mean anything. Hashem will protect those who observe the mitzvah of getting drunk on Purim. Even if you drink 20 shots of vodka and drive, you’ll be fine.
It seems you’re intent on proving Syag right that you’re a troll…March 12, 2019 10:07 am at 10:07 am #1693445
What’s wrong with being a troll?March 12, 2019 10:52 am at 10:52 am #1693546Neville ChaimBerlinParticipant
Hashem protects those in the process of fulfilling a mitzvah. Am I the ONLY one here who isn’t a koifer? It’s just like how those to learn full time never go without money, or how everyone finds a shidduch even though it should be mathematically impossible, or how everyone in Israel is protected from Antisemitism. Why would Purim be any different?March 12, 2019 1:53 pm at 1:53 pm #1693675
“Why would Purim be any different?”
Because of venahaphoch hu.
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